Beware of False Profits
Posted by Edy | Posted in Announcements, News, Resources, Tips | Posted on 06-02-2011
Tags: credit, flips, hard money, investing, loan, payments, profit, real estate, rehab
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I have had a lot of questions lately about the ARV calculations when looking at investment properties. Specifically, why do we only go up to 65% of ARV? If you have not already done so, take a look at the previous post, “It Can’t Make Dollars if it Don’t Make Sense.” for a primer on ARV calculations.
There are a lot of reasons that the 65% rule makes sense for investors. The first, and most obvious, is that if you are able to get full ARV, you have made a tidy profit on your deal. At the end of the day, that is a goal for all investors or we wouldn’t be doing this. We want you to make money and succeed. If you are making profits, then you are doing more deals. If you are doing more deals, hopefully you are bringing them to us, and we are doing more deals. A rising tide carries all boats.
More to the point though, we look for this spread to account for all the things that new investors typically forget to roll into a deal. There are a lot of hidden costs, or at least costs that are easily overlooked. These nickels and dimes can add up to big numbers if you are not paying attention. So, let’s look at a few of these costs and how they relate to real profits.
File Fees and Closing Costs: You should always budget roughly $1500 for up-front fees on a file. Those fees cover things like AVM, processing, credit check, appraisal etc. Then, there are normal closing costs, which will run about 5% of the total loan amount. Closing costs will vary from place to place, so make sure you look into the typical costs in your area. For our calculations, I am using 5%
Points: Most hard money lenders charge points on their loans. I figure roughly 5 points as a baseline. As you work through the process, you will get a firm number through underwriting. But initially, calculate 5 points to be safe.
Realtor Commissions: Unless you are selling your property by-owner, you will have a realtor involved. I suggest finding a good realtor to work with, who can be on your team to help resell your home. A good realtor can make all the difference in reselling your home quickly. The industry standard for realtor commissions is 6% of the selling price. Sometimes this can be negotiated, but don’t count on it.
Utilities: While workers are getting your home ready to resell, they will need power at a minimum. Most likely gas and water as well. You can check with the utility providers to determine an average bill on the home so that you know what to plan for. I usually budget $200/month to be on the safe side. Also, you will need to have everything in working order to show the house. Prospective buyers will check the lights, water, and ventilation to make sure everything is working properly.
Rehab Over-runs: You may have budgeted for general rehab. However it seems there is always something that is overlooked, runs over budget, or breaks and needs repair before you can sell. The old adage of nothing getting done on-time or under-budget has been around for years, and with good reason. I suggest adding 10% to the rehab budget just to be on the safe side.
Loan Payments: While work is being done, and your home is awaiting a new owner, you are making loan payments. Most hard-money loans are interest-only payments through the term of the loan. Calculate your loan payments, and plan for making six of them. If you sell faster, you have made fewer payments and you get a better return than expected. I always plan for the worst, and then hope all surprises are pleasant ones.
Insurance: You will need to carry liability insurance on your property, especially during the remodeling process. If a worker is injured on your property, you could be liable. Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Plan on about $100/month. That is a high estimate, based on generalities. Insurance agents in your area can give you exact rates.
Permits and Licenses: Are you doing any work that requires a permit? If you use a general contractor, they can usually advise you. Most will include the cost of permits in their estimate. However, make sure before you get started. Permits are not a lot of money, but everything adds up.
HOA Fees: If your home is in an area that is part of an HOA, you will have to pay those dues while you are awaiting a buyer. HOA dues can have a huge swing, so verify this before hand. I have seen HOA fees at as little as $60/year, and reaching into the hundreds of dollars every month. Plus, if this was an REO or short sale, the previous owners may have back-dues to the HOA. Those fees become your responsibility.
Marketing: Sometimes you have to pay extra to market your home aggressively. Ads in real estate publications and newspapers can help, but as with all the other things, this can add up. Budget $100/month to be on the safe side.
So keeping these things in mind, let’s run through a practice scenario. I am a big fan of easy math, so I am going to use some round numbers to provide an example.
Let’s say you are buying a home with an ARV of $100,000. You learned your lesson, so you ran through the numbers first to make sure it was a solid project, and the numbers made sense. You got a great deal at $50.000, and it needs about $15,000 in rehab. That puts you right at 65% ARV, and you stand to make $35,000 profit. KaChing!
But let’s make sure:
Purchase Price $50,000
Rehab Estimate $15,000
File Fees $ 1,500
Closing Costs (est. 5% of loan) $ 3,250
Points (est. 5 pts) $ 3,250
Realtor Commission (plan 6% of sale price) $ 6,000
Utilities (6mo @ $200 / mo.) $ 1,200
Rehab Over-run Contingency $ 1,500
Loan Payments (est. 6mo @ $800/mo) $ 4,800
Insurance $ 600
Permits $ 200
HOA Fees $ 400
Marketing $ 600
TOTAL COST $88,300
PROFIT IF SOLD @ $100,000 = $11,700
As you can see, the $35,000 bonanza we expected wound up being less than 1/3 of that. Plus, if the home was having a hard time moving, so you discounted it, you ate into that margin even more.
Granted, I figured on paying for a lot of things you may not. However, it’s better to think about all these potential expenses and allocate for them, than to be surprised later on.
Now you can see why we look for that 65% or better ARV deal. We want to protect your profits, and make sure that you are investing wisely. If we do our jobs right, you should be working on deals that make financial sense, and begin growing your real estate business. We all want the same thing here: For you to succeed.
With that said, all of these things may not apply to your specific circumstance. But of all the extra costs that can crop up, these are the ones that novice investors tend to most frequently overlook. It could be that you have only one or two of these items. But as I have said a few times – you have to mind the pennies, and the dollars will take care of themselves.
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Good luck and happy hunting!


